Why did the 8-car pile up happen?


 Just watch these videos and judge for yourself:

Watch this one from 4m50s...

And the next one too...

 What these show is a clear lack of understanding by the guardrail workers on the speeds involved, or how a car works. By placing the warnings in these positions they are asking cars to both turn and brake from over 120mph over a crest down to just 30mph. No wonder they crashed.

Why no safety marshalls accompanying the repair crew? Why no flag marshalls? When TF was only 500 people, I understand that flag marshalls cost too much. But when 1000s of cars trying to drive, flag marshalls will save lives.

Unfortunately for TF fans, I suspect the answer might be a speed limit rather than a safety worker...

Just in case you thought this was an isolated incident of poorly placed roadworks signs with no warnings:


+1 #1 NeilVtec 2011-10-03 13:43
I disagree that a speed limit would help as IMO it would just destroy all tourism which they need more than ever at the moment! I personally wouldn't drive all the way over there to be limited to say 90-100mph ish on the Ring.

However like you say paying Flag Marshall's is a small amount to spend when you think how many 1000's of cars / laps are paid for each day its open! And more importantly it would stop accidents like this from happening! Even a digital light system like on most UK track-days!
#2 Cobra Vic 2011-10-03 13:44
That is insane, I have a suggestion
get with the car clubs that come to the ring and have volunteer course workers on TF days.
#3 pierre 2011-10-03 14:02
When you see how people drive there, it's not totally fair to give all the blame to the workers. These guys do their best to keep the NS as safe as they can, and they actually put their own lives in danger while working on the track.

Some amazing car (not)control here:
+5 #4 admin 2011-10-03 14:36
I am NOT criticizing the workers - one was actually HIT whilst flagging on Saturday. BUT we do need a system of early-warning that is NOT just an empty trailer dumped on an apex.

My suggestion is flaggers. More lights could also work.
#5 pierre 2011-10-03 14:44
Light signals would probably be the easier system. Could be controlled either from a central place or by marshalls on the spot.

Prob not cheap, but it doesn't need thousands of these either. Placed strategically (before the sections with bad visibility), they could really help. As long as people will respect them, that is...
#6 bungee1 2011-10-04 13:29
Hmm, 2 out of 3 Vids are no longer available.

First Video is now Private, second has been removed... So the Question is: Why?

Was the GmbH or the Police? I don´t think the users did it because they had too many views on it.
+2 #7 pierre 2011-10-04 18:48
Here's another video:
#8 bungee1 2011-10-04 19:00
this is a really interessant Vid as it shows actually the second part Of the crash. Maybe someone should forward it To the local Police?
#9 grant 2011-10-06 16:50
this is how the road works look before the crash - IMHO the workers are at fault for the accident due to poor warning sign distance and layout.

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